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Ian Phanes's definition of magic

Let's see if I can remember the wording I used to use when I was on irc channel #wicca in the early 90's.

Magic is a wide range of techniques for becoming aware of various subtle aspects of reality, and sometimes influencing them with ones intent.

That's not exactly what I used to say, but it's close. I'll post that now, and think about how I would I define it at this stage of my life. I'll probably post a new definition this weekend.


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May. 1st, 2010 08:09 pm (UTC)
Fascinating. Would your definition include something like meditation to be magic?
May. 2nd, 2010 04:18 pm (UTC)
Nope. But that has to do with my definition of meditation. To me, meditation is only inside ones head--though meditation can be a useful springboard for getting outside ones head. Magic always involves more than the inside of ones head.
May. 2nd, 2010 07:48 pm (UTC)
But surely subtle aspects of the self are aspects of reality which one can get in touch with via meditation. And without doubt, one can effect change via meditation.

On a similar note, virtually all my spellcasting occurs in just that sort of conscious state. I meditate first, then without even getting up, I make a conscious effort to effect my change by various mental techniques while remaining in the meditative state. I don't call on spirits or anybody else to do the work - I do it myself, by way of a specialized mental state.

But say one does come into contact with something... supernatural, for lack of a better word, without seeking it out. Like some entity getting in touch with you instead of the other way around. Have you then performed magic? Because you've certainly come into contact with something subtle and real. What would you say to some unusual situations like that? Can you flesh your definition out a little more so I can understand?
May. 6th, 2010 05:36 pm (UTC)
As I said, it has to do with my definition of meditation. To me, once you've reached outside your own head, what you are doing is no longer *just* meditation. It's using meditation as a springboard into performing magic.

I think that this is a useful distinction because there are many schools of meditation, and most of them do not include the ability to make changes in external reality.
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